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Reconciliation :
what is this life... (feeling bad & irritated that I cannot feel empathy while WS griefs sisters death)

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 DeGeGuy (original poster new member #83785) posted at 11:59 PM on Sunday, March 17th, 2024

So... here I am once again, back at the only place that offered me some semblance of sanity and peace when I first found out. Brace yourself for rambling, long, intertwined, and chaotic streams of thought.

Trigger warning: Graphic Death by illness.

Me (31M), Her (29F)

I made some posts last year when I discovered my then-girlfriend of 6-years work-exit affair. Feel free to delve into those if you want a closer look at what transpired. But I'll provide a brief overview regardless, although this is a "reconciliation" forum. I hope this doesn't violate any rules, but I feel compelled to outline what occurred to provide context. The crux of this post, however, pertains to reconciliation.

So... let's break this down into three phases.

Phase 1: Found Out Stage

Phase 2: Pre-Death

Phase 3: Post-Death

Phase 1:

We were together for six years. Five of those years were wonderful. No toxicity, no shenanigans. Just a healthy relationship. The sixth year was incredibly tough. She became heavily involved with marijuana. I struggled at work and university. We both lost sight of ourselves, and consequently, our connection to each other waned. I became neglectful and overly dependent on her. She ended up leaving me, and I had to move into a dismal apartment. For a couple of months, she sent mixed signals, denying her affair and gaslighting me expertly. This denial, despite the evidence, inflicted considerable damage. It's an unforgettable feeling to confront someone while knowing the truth but being lied to directly. This deception was more damaging to me than the actual affair. Amidst all this, my father passed away from a heart attack two months earlier. Edit: No, one moment. She started the affair a couple of weeks before he died (her affair started November 2022). She essentially abandoned me in the midst of grieving our relationship, my lost home, and the death of my father. By the way, I grew up without a mother. So yes, I was utterly alone.

The affair was an illicit escapade with her married coworker, a betrayal that unfolded even in our home. This violation of our sacred space remains unforgivable to me.

She ended the affair, although her coworker persisted in pursuing her. After issuing an ultimatum, we eventually reconciled.

Phase 2 (Initial Reconciliation): Things slowly but surely improved. There were ups and downs, of course, but the lows gradually dissipated. She became affectionate and caring once again, displaying understanding and empathy towards me. We engaged in lengthy conversations, made plans, and worked on ourselves.

I managed to pull myself together, securing a great job at an international IT consultancy. Meanwhile, she made efforts to change her behavior, showing remorse and accountability for her actions.

She went to the US to visit her sister, a decision that was tough for me but understandable. It was her only opportunity to spend an extended period with her sister, especially since she was not currently employed. Unfortunately, her sister tragically passed away ten days before Christmas 2023. But more on that later.

Phase 3: One day, she called me to inform me that both she and her sister were sick with the flu. I advised her to stay strong, stay hydrated, and seek medical attention if necessary. I reminded her that her cousin was nearby if they needed help.

The flu worsened, and her sister's condition deteriorated rapidly. Despite my urging, her sister refused to go to the hospital due to fears of medical expenses. The next morning, my girlfriend frantically contacted me, informing me that her sister had passed out, her legs were discolored, and her private area was swollen and bleeding. She rushed her sister to the emergency room.

The diagnosis was streptococcus and sepsis. Her sister was placed in a coma, and doctors amputated both of her legs and one hand in a desperate attempt to save her life. She briefly regained consciousness before passing away.

It still feels surreal to me. I knew her sister for seven years. She was a wonderful person and left behind a seven-year-old child.

I'm only scratching the surface with this explanation. The ordeal felt like descending into an abyss. It was utterly horrific. My girlfriend practically witnessed her sister's slow death before rushing her to the emergency room. Understandably, my girlfriend is overwhelmed with guilt and shame for not acting sooner. But no one could have predicted the severity of the situation.

Now, onto why I'm writing this post:

Since returning to our country, she has made little progress. The entire situation is surreal. Our relationship is shattered by her affair. Our lives have been turned upside down by her reckless actions. Her sister died beside her, and she will never see her nephew again due to the father's behavior. She's unemployed, lacking in friends, and utterly lost. It's a complete mess. Sometimes, I struggle to comprehend how we reached this point.

She's turned to incessant marijuana use as a coping mechanism. When she's not smoking, she's erecting walls around herself and her grief. She refuses to take action or engage in meaningful conversation about her feelings. I understand the crushing weight of grief, but there comes a point where one must take control. It's been almost four months, and she remains stagnant. She's attending therapy, albeit half-heartedly, and refuses to envision a future for herself. If confronted with her grief, she shuts down or initiates futile arguments. She avoids calls when she's sad and resists any attempts to reintegrate into life.

Overall, I'm at a loss. I'm still grieving, too. I'm grieving the loss of myself caused by her betrayal. I'm far from healed, but currently, she's unable to contribute to our healing process. I understand this, but at the same time, I struggle to muster any more compassion for her. I'm unsure if this is normal or if I'm simply being callous. We once made promises and shared moments of clarity, but now I find myself caring for a woman who left me wounded in a swamp of lies.

It may sound childish, but she should be the one making an effort now. Obviously, she's unable to do so. But I also find myself incapable of making any further efforts.

To conclude, I suppose my question is: am I normal? Is this situation normal?

I'm typically a very empathetic person. I would never be so indifferent to my significant other's grief. The person I once knew would have cared for his partner with the utmost tenderness. Yet here I am, feeling apathetic...

[This message edited by DeGeGuy at 12:25 AM, Monday, March 18th]

31M betrayed after 6 yrs by 29F fiance. Sex at our home with married co-worker.

5 months breakup, 1 year failed reconciliation. So a total sum of 7 years.

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Superesse ( member #60731) posted at 12:16 AM on Monday, March 18th, 2024

She is suffering from a bad case of complicated grief. Look up that diagnosis and see what is recommended to treat it. I think you cannot fix this for her. And doing drugs to numb her feelings will only prolong the grief. She may also suffer from some form of survivor guilt. I experienced that after my younger sister died, too. It takes time and therapy but she needs to commit to living, and again it really is not for you to initiate.

Not sure if this addresses your main point but what I'm saying is, even if you had the level of empathy for her suffering that you think you should have but do not have (and I can understand why), getting past trauma she experienced has to come from her.

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Grieving ( member #79540) posted at 12:53 AM on Monday, March 18th, 2024

Like superesse said, it’s a case of complicated grief. December 2023 isn’t that long ago; it’s not unusual or blameworthy that she is still in the throes of grief, even though it sounds like she has very unhealthy coping mechanisms generally (which probably contributed to her having an affair). She absolutely deserves empathy and help.

But you are not the one to give it. It’s not on you. You are processing your own trauma and loss; that’s why you feel numb/apathetic despite normally being a supportive, empathetic person.

If you don’t want the relationship, I would back out now, or at least make a solid plan for extricating yourself from it in a reasonable time frame. Acknowledge her grief and the validity of it with as much sympathy as you can muster, but let her know unequivocally that you’re not in a place where you can give her the support she needs. Direct her toward professional help and make your exit.

If you still want the relationship, let her know that, but he just as direct about her needing help and you not being able to give it.

My husband’s sister was dying a long, slow death of cancer when he had his affair. We both loved her deeply and were very involved in her care and treatment journey. It was hitting all of us—including our kids—super hard. The affair bombshell dropped three weeks before she died. We sat up all night together with her in her home on the last night of her life, right in the peak of affair discovery trauma. We were both devastated wrecks; I clamped a lid on bc all my feelings and got my kids through the trauma of seeing their beloved aunt die and get carted off by funeral home people in full body protective gear in the height of Covid. I had very little to offer my husband at that time. I wish I had been able to support him better, but it was literally impossible for me. We got through it, but both of us had to fend for ourselves to some extent, because we couldn’t really be there for each other except to hysterically bond, which just delays real reconciliation.

This is not on you. Your girlfriend has been seriously traumatized and is grief stricken and coping terribly. I feel for her. It’s awful. But it’s not on you to fix it. You may just need to go your separate ways, or you might stay together , but heal separately. Either way, each of you has a full plate with your own healing. You can and should be kind—don’t add pain on top of pain— but Focus on you.

Husband had six month affair with co-worker. Found out 7/2020. Married 20 years at that point; two teenaged kids. Reconciling.

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SacredSoul33 ( member #83038) posted at 4:14 AM on Wednesday, March 20th, 2024

Does she have family? Mother? Siblings? It might be a good idea to tell them what’s going on with her and see if they can help push her towards getting some professional help.

Do you live together? Are you financially supporting her? If so, you could give her a deadline regarding how long you’re willing to continue doing so if she doesn’t seek treatment.

This is tough. I’m so sorry.

Remove the "I want you to like me" sticker from your forehead and place it on the mirror, where it belongs. ~ Susan Jeffers

Your nervous system will always choose a familiar hell over an unfamiliar heaven.

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