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Divorce/Separation :
Missing WS

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 Perdita1 (original poster member #67654) posted at 10:06 PM on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021

So, WS and I are separated and going through the D process. I finally told my parents what he did to me...and my dad wanted to try and see if we could R. I mean, I really didn’t need that. I shut it down pretty quickly.

But sometimes...sometimes I really wish R was on the table. I can see WS was trying before, even if it wasn’t enough for me (should it have been??). I miss being part of a couple. I miss having my kids all the time. I miss not feeling alone in social situations. I miss not being alone.

It’s so silly. He betrayed me. He hurt me so much I can’t bear it. He still makes hurtful comments about how I ‘had too many children’ (we had three).

Anyone relate?

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nekonamida ( member #42956) posted at 10:23 PM on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021

I can relate. And I know from experience, you miss the idea of him and what he stood for as a partner but you don't miss HIM as a person. In fact, he wasn't even included in your list of things you miss.

There's literally billions of men out there. You can find one better than him to be a part of a couple with and not feel lonely. But in mean time, learn how to live solo and be happy being with yourself.

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leafields ( Guide #63517) posted at 10:26 PM on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021

Yes, I can relate. We were married for much longer than I was ever single. We had a lot of history together. His constant gaslighting and devaluing me took its toll over the years. The A & sexual assault were the straw that broke the camel's back.

I miss what I thought we were as a couple and him when he was charming, but I'm so much happier now.

BW M 34years, Dday 1: March 2018, Dday 2: August 2019, D final 2/25/21

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EllieKMAS ( member #68900) posted at 10:26 PM on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021

Divorce sucks. It's hard and it's sad even when it is absolutely the right move to make. There's a grieving that has to happen and it is 100% normal and there's no shortcutting that process unfortunately.

It helped me during my S/D process to try to reframe. Instead of thinking about what I missed, instead focusing on what I wasn't missing - the lies, the crying, the fighting, the messiness. Instead of focusing on what I didn't have (a spouse), focusing on what I did - self-respect, financial freedom, peace, authenticity, clarity.

It does get easier to focus on the good stuff the further out you get, I promise.

"No, it's you mothafucka, here's a list of reasons why." – Iliza Schlesinger

"The love that you lost isn't worth what it cost and in time you'll be glad that it's gone." – Linkin Park

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Maxwell354 ( member #79092) posted at 10:28 PM on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2021

Agree with the others that this is relatable. I try my best to remind myself I am missing what I thought I had. And that it was not what I really had.

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BearlyBreathing ( member #55075) posted at 3:10 AM on Wednesday, August 4th, 2021

Echoing the rest. It’s hard to let go of what we thought we had. But you can - and you will. It does take time, and it takes distance.

Also, so impressed you didn’t kick him in the groin for the comment about having too many kids. Obviously he couldn’t keep it in his pants. What a jerk.

Me: BS 57 (49 on d-day)Him: *who cares ;-) *. D-Day 8/15/2016 LTA. Kinda liking my new life :-)

**horrible typist, lots of edits to correct. :-/ **

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The1stWife ( Guide #58832) posted at 12:41 PM on Wednesday, August 4th, 2021

He still makes hurtful comments about how I ‘had too many children’ (we had three).

Why would you want to reconcile with someone who would say things like this???

Survived two affairs and brink of Divorce. Happily reconciled. 11 years out from Dday. Reconciliation takes two committed people to be successful.

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stubbornft ( member #49614) posted at 4:30 PM on Wednesday, August 4th, 2021

I miss mine, too. But it isn't based in reality. I HAD to kick him out on 7/6 because he screamed at me that I was fucked up while I dry heaved having a breakdown, due to a trigger he responded horribly to. So when I miss him I think about that day.

Think about the shitty stuff. You don't miss him. You miss comfort and what you thought you had. It is tough but you will get through this.

Me: BS 40 Him: WS 51 He cheated with massage parlor sex workersDday 01/19/2021
Kicked him out in 2021 - life is better on the other side. Moved on with the help of a wonderful therapist.

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thishurts123 ( member #58848) posted at 6:17 AM on Friday, August 6th, 2021

I understand how you feel. Everyone is right - we miss what we wish we had. I am two years out and some days I "miss" being married but not to him. He was and is toxic. You will get there - be patient with yourself.

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Bigger ( Attaché #8354) posted at 11:31 AM on Friday, August 6th, 2021

Three kids? And he had no part in their conception so it’s all your fault?

The kids made him have to pay for sex?

Honey – I’m guessing your family really had 4 kids, only the three you gave birth to mature with age.

"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone." Epictetus

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Chaos ( member #61031) posted at 2:50 PM on Friday, August 6th, 2021

I think this makes you human and him a flaming horse's patoot.

BS-me/WH-4.5yrLTA Married 2+ decades-2 adult children. Multiple DDays w/same LAP until I told OBS 2018- Cease & Desist sent spring 2021 "Hello–My name is Chaos–You f***ed my husband-Prepare to Die!"

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Reddirtman ( new member #77340) posted at 2:32 AM on Sunday, August 8th, 2021

I have been following your thread from the beginning. Your uncertainty is normal because you are a normal feeling human being. And for the record, I agree with Chaos. Your ex is a horses backside. Sending prayers of strength.

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 Perdita1 (original poster member #67654) posted at 8:21 PM on Wednesday, August 18th, 2021

Thank you all for your replies - I’ve been reading and re-reading them as things have been rough.

I get so stressed when I see STBX. He’s so damn happy with his ‘freedom’. Today he was talking about how the kids will live on takeaways when they are with him and his mother is not around to cook - and reminded me that he ‘can do whatever he wants’. It makes me so damn angry that a cheating, lying, ‘finding-the-easiest-way-to-pass-the-time-with-the-kids’ parent still gets to have time with them. What kind of role model is that?

My support system is shot to pieces. My parents think I should try to R. My siblings (who have not yet been told the reason for the D) are being so civil to STBX it feels like another betrayal. STBX said that he would not lose friends over what he has done. And sadly for my mental health, this seems to be true.

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fareast ( Moderator #61555) posted at 11:05 PM on Wednesday, August 18th, 2021

Perdita1:

One of the biggest hurdles to deal with in the “infidelity grinder” is the unfairness of it all to you. You do not deserve any of this crap and yet here you are. And you will get through it. And you will build a better life. Be good to yourself. Your WH will not be able to keep up a false facade with the children. He is too selfish and self absorbed for that to happen. But you just come to terms with the fact that life can be brutally unfair at times. But it can not defeat you.

Do not engage with him. He will only try to hurt you. No contact will allow you to heal faster. And if you must interact over child or financial issues, just go grey rock. Become an unemotional rock in response.

Sorry your parents are pushing R. That is normal for grandparents. But it is not in your best interests. Always value yourself. Focus on you and what you want moving forward. Ride that emotional rollercoaster knowing that each day the ride gets a little easier. Remember you are the prize. You are enough. Your children need a steady hand who actually cares about them.

As for the so-called friends who have no problem with your WH’s betrayal. No big loss. You know enough to delete them. It’s at times like these you see what people are made of. Develop real friends. Sending you strength. Good luck.

Never bother with things in your rearview mirror. Your best days are on the road in front of you.

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crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 7:54 PM on Thursday, August 19th, 2021

^^^ Agree with fareast I think you should have limited contact with him. This way you don't have to hear his stupid boasting about whatever...right? You have your life and your new freedom to enjoy and it is wonderful.


I lost a lot of friends and gained a lot of friends. The one's lost are for a good reason.


Sending you huge hugs today!

fBS/fWS(me):51 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:53 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(21) DS(18)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Divorced 8/8/24

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