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Hippo16 ( member #52440) posted at 12:51 AM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

Her reply was, 'I didn't know the full truth back then, so I didn't feel I needed to'..


I take that set of words to mean:

YOU didn't know the full truth back then, so I didn't feel I needed to'..


Holy Snarfblat man, do you like getting a kick to the gonads?


Another way of asking - Did she sterilize the sword before she shoved it into your heart?


Just WOW!

There's no troubled marriage that can't be made worse with adultery."For a person with integrity, there is no possibility of being unhappy enough in your marriage to have an affair, but not unhappy enough to ask for divorce."

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Unhinged ( member #47977) posted at 3:41 AM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

Something is just still holding me back in my gut from giving her all back.. 馃様

Of course there's something holding you back. She's not trustworthy. She betrayed you and lied to you for years.

Brother, the best advice I ever received here was to step-back and detach from your WS. Watch and observe what she does with the opportunity you've given to her.

Forget about your marriage and reconciliation for a while. Focus on you, your recovery and healing. Climb up onto that proverbial fence and get nice and comfortable. Carefully assess both R and D. When you're ready, when you know which side of the fence has the greener pasture, then you'll be able to make the best choice for yourself.

You say your WW has changed and is remorseful. Please understand that those changes and seeming remorse are not genuine and authentic.

She's in survival mode, protecting her ego, trying to control the narrative and outcome. She's reacting to you and the situation when she should be digging deep within herself to figure out why she self-destructed, blew-up her life and the lives of those she claims to love.

I've read the stories of dozens of wayward spouses and while all were unique individuals with unique stories the patterns of human behavior are crystal clear.

When she starts to own and fix her shit, you'll see it. You'll feel it. You'll know it.

So, keep on holding back. Focus on you and finding your strength, your equilibrium, your own personal happiness and peace.

Let go. Let go of the outcome.

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redbaron007 ( member #50144) posted at 9:03 AM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

Then this year, I seen a big positive shift in her towards me intimately, and I did ask her why was I not worth this a few years back.. Putting in the extra effort etc.. He reply was, 'I didn't know the full truth back then, so I didn't feel I needed to'..
This actually hurt a lot, and makes me wonder, am I only worth this effort now that I know all, could leave, friends and family finding out, the shame of it all etc...

As some others have pointed out, this is an important clue unwittingly divulged by your WW that says a LOT.
DO NOT ignore your gut. Do not waste your life on a cheater. In any case, divorcing and amicable coparenting is way better for the kids than staying in an irretrievably broken marriage, don't you think? Children are VERY perceptive, and they are also very resilient.

Me: BS (44)
She: WS (41)
One son (6)
DDay: May 2015 (OBS told me)
Divorced, Zero regrets, sound sleep, son doing great!
A FOG is just a weather phenomenon. An Affair Fog is a clever excuse invented by WS's to explain their continued bad behavior.

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 Feelingvunerable (original poster new member #85593) posted at 4:10 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

What's everyone's thoughts with In Home Separation if I went down that road in the future? Basically we have a stand alone site with plenty of room and a large garage I could renovate into living accommodation for myself.
This way, it would ease financial burdens, I'd be on hand to see and help out with the kids etc..
Where it could get messy is I found someone else and had them back to my new accommodation.
We had already talked about this, and my wife said she'd be ok with this, and just want me happy..
On the other hand, I have to consider her finding someone new, and I honestly think I'd be ok with this, as she'd be longer be my concern..
Thanks guys

Feelingvunerable

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 6:40 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

I think Feelingvulnerable's W's comment about 'not knowing all the facts' can be interpreted in multiple ways, and I don't know what she meant. Fv was on the ground, and he doesn't interpret the statement as a deal killer. OTOH, he's unsure of his interpretation, and that has to carry weight, too.

So I'll ask Fv, 'What do you think your W is doing? Is she remorseful? Is she covering her ass?' What is your gut telling you?

If you think she's remorseful, why are you asking about in-house separation? And if you want IHS, it seems unreasonable to place yourself where she can make more demands on you WRT child care and household. That smacks of the pick-me dance, which is never a good thing to do.

Whatever disconnect there was between you is irrelevant, totally irrelevant. If your W felt a disconnect, it was her job to do something to rebuild the connection. There's no imaginable universe in which connecting to person B will help rebuild connection with person A. You're responsible for not working to rebuild your connection, but you didn't cheat - and once your WS started on the road to an A, she became the barrier.

It's only a year. R is about the future, not the past, and you get to decide what you want to do - and what you do, which may be different from what you want to do.

I can't tell where you really are, except that you seem to want R. What I can recommend is this:

Make sure you're wearing clear glasses. Don't let shaded or roes-colored or shit-colored glasses sway your decision-making. Take as many filters down as you can. See yourself and your WS as clearly as you can, and aim to perceive more accurately every day.

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The idea of looking for someone else whil being undecided about D looks like a sure way to get yourself into trouble. Healing yourself means taking responsibility for uourself. Letting yourself slide down a slippery slope is a sure way to hurt yourself. You deserve to treat yourself better than that.

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To be betrayed by someone and therefore assume you will be betrayed by anyone else, doesn't sound healed to me. It sounds like an argument for better the devil you know.

I should have expected someone would use reductio ad absurdum, which is often fallacious and is fallacious here..

Many people assert that D solves the BS's problems. Many people assert that a BS will find a new, faithful partner with ease.

The facts are:

1) D does not solve the awful feelings and negative self-talk that follows being betrayed. Whatever the BS does, they still have to heal themselves, and

2) BS after BS come to SI saying that they found a new partner, made the new partner aware of their infidelity trauma, and find themselves betrayed again. Pointing out that risk does not assume anyone will be betrayed again. Yow do you not know that?

The house analogy may hold, but here's another that may hold instead. Consider that a WS who does the work necessary to heal makes themself less vulnerable to cheating than they were before doing the work; that goes almost without sating - effective healing will necessarily reduce vulnerability to another A.

A former WS who does the necessary healing work may be a better bet for long term fidelity than a person who has never been tested. IOW, a person who has redeemed themself may be a better bet for long-term fidelity that a person who hasn't had to redeem themself. A former thief who has redeemed themself may be a better guardian than a person with larceny in their heart who just hasn't had the opportunity to steal before.

Some more very significant facts include,

3) we can't predict the future, and

4) maybe we can see into someone else's heart;

5) trying to establish and live by rules about the worthiness of others inevitably blinds oneself to important factors in situations which almost always have unique features.

IOW, if you want to heal from being betrayed, your best bet is to throw the rules out and perceive what's really happening around you - and in you.

In general, SI is open to WSes to wanted to change from cheaters to good partners. Many WSes have come through here, and even many serial cheaters healed themselves. I have no doubt that WSes who have reoffended after posting here are unlikely to come back, but boy! a lot of WSes on SI seem to have redeemed themselves - not because they said so but because they pretty clearly did a lot of work on themselves and have adopted new ways of interpreting their thoughts, feelings, affects, you name it.

That's despite the many voices counseling,

'Always D, because they're bound to cheat again,' or

'Always D because you won't be able to heal from being betrayed,' or

'Always D, because the A will always hurt too much.'

IOW, you've got it: the devil you know is a better bet than devil you don't know when the devil you know has changed from cheater to good partner - and if you don't blind yourself with 'rules' you'll probably be able to tell how effectively the WS has done their work.

Just ask hikingout, BSR, pippin, and the many folks who no longer post (HUFI-PUFI, FloridaRedMan, AuthenticNow, BrokenRoad, DS crying , MrsWalloped, and plainsong (my W), The1stwife's H)

Not every couple will R, even if both do their work. Some WSes don't heal enough to make their BS choose R. No BS or WS is obligated to R.

But 'rules' - other than 'take responsibility for yourself' - are the enemy of healing.

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DRSOOLERS ( member #85508) posted at 8:13 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

A former WS who does the necessary healing work may be a better bet for long term fidelity than a person who has never been tested... A former thief who has redeemed themself may be a better guardian than a person with larceny in their heart who just hasn't had the opportunity to steal before.

This is a classic false equivalence. You are operating on the cynical assumption that everyone has "larceny in their heart" and is simply waiting for the opportunity to strike. This devalues the millions of people who possess intrinsic integrity鈥攖hose who, when "tested" by a failing marriage or external temptation, choose to communicate, seek therapy, or leave the relationship before betraying their partner.

Character is not a muscle that only becomes strong after it has been broken; for many, the strength lies in the fact that it never broke to begin with.

D does not solve the awful feelings and negative self-talk that follows being betrayed. Whatever the BS does, they still have to heal themselves.

While it is true that the Betrayed Spouse must heal their own trauma, you are downplaying the role of the environment in that healing. Divorc is not a "cure," but it is the removal of the primary trigger. Healing from a burn is statistically and psychologically faster when you move away from the fire. Suggesting that staying with the person who caused the trauma is "equal" to leaving ignores the reality of C-PTSD and the constant state of hyper-vigilance required to monitor a Wayward Spouse (WS).

IOW, you've got it: the devil you know is a better bet than devil you don't know when the devil you know has changed from cheater to good partner.

This is the "Devil You Know" Fallacy. With a new partner, the risk of infidelity is an unknown variable (X). With a WS, the risk has been proven to be 100\% under a specific set of circumstances. By choosing the WS, you aren't choosing a "safer bet"; you are choosing a partner who has already demonstrated they lack the coping mechanisms to stay faithful during a crisis. The idea that they are now "immune" because they've been "tested" is a way to soothe the BS's anxiety, but it isn't supported by behavioral data.

Just ask hikingout, BSR, pippin, and the many folks who no longer post...

This is the definition of Survivorship Bias. You are citing a handful of successful cases while ignoring the thousands of users who attempted R, were betrayed again (re-D-Day), and left this forum in silence or shame.

Focusing only on those who survived the process creates a distorted reality of the success rate of reconciliation. It frames R as a "noble path" of growth, while for many, it is simply a cycle of managed misery or eventual failure.

But 'rules' - other than 'take responsibility for yourself' - are the enemy of healing.

Boundaries are not "the enemy of healing." Boundaries are what keep a person safe. By encouraging people to "throw out the rules," you are essentially encouraging them to lower their defenses in the face of a proven threat.

Your view is valid as a personal philosophy for someone who has chosen to stay, but it should not be presented as an objective truth. It is a view heavily shaped by the need to justify the immense "sunk cost" of reconciliation. For many, the "best bet" for a healthy life is not a "reformed thief," but a partner who respects the house enough never to steal in the first place.

I simply don't think it's wise to blankety state divorce doesn't guarantee anything, Unless you are talking in the wider philosophical sense, which is IOW a synonym for saying nothing in life is guarantee. Otherwise it is as egregious as a user posting everyone who reconciles is spineless. Both stances, whilst on other ends of the spectrum, deserve robust dispute.

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DRSOOLERS ( member #85508) posted at 8:15 PM on Saturday, January 10th, 2026

@Feelingvunerable

I think in house separation could be beneficial to you. Though wouldn't recommend dating until you felt you were in a place where you could be accepting of her dating too.

If you are wanting in house separation to be a taste of divorce or divorce light... Meeting other people is an eventuality.

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